How to Become a Respected Modder

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How to Become a Respected Modder

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How to Become a Respected Modder &
.::Why We Mod::.

I wrote this a few months ago to several cheating communities. I thought I should post it because even here I see new members talking about XBL cheating and cheating mods in general.
This is only directed towards newer modders, and XBL cheaters.

The definition of "cheating:"
  • 1. A person who acts dishonestly, deceives, or defrauds
  • 2. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.
  • 3. To deceive by trickery; swindle.
  • 4. To deprive by trickery; defraud.
How cheating is wrong:
  • Point A - As defined, by cheating, you admit yourself as the following: Dishonest, deceiving, swindler. Most don’t care about their character being defined as this, but to those who do, I hope you get the point.
  • Point B – Some cheat to raise their “rank.” The Halo 2 rank you carry is to show others your skill level on the game. In most cases, people desire to raise their rank for “respect” or maybe “attention.” The problem with cheating to raise that rank is: after you find someone that respects your fake rank, you will most likely play in game with him or her. After he or she finds out how you have received your rank, they will disrespect you more than one with a 10 point rank. You were better off before.
  • Point C – “Oh just have some fun, live a little.” I fail to see how cheating is genuinely ”fun?” How can one consider unfairly winning in a game over and over “fun?” An answer of this question could be: “There isn’t anything else to do.” If that is the case, then continue reading.
How great modders are started:
75% of all modders(Estimated) have started modding with cheating. Now, before you make unfair assumptions, continue reading.
  • Option 1 for modders – After finding out the possibilities of Halo 2, most will look for more advanced practical modding. Most will lose their immature infatuation for pathetic cheating. After that steps in, the modder then starts his path as a “great” modder. He mods to make the game Halo 2 better. He mods to enhance the game. I have taken this path, as have about half of the modders today. These modders are known as “Professional.”
  • Option 2 for modders– After finding out that Halo 2 modding is indeed possible, some will abuse the knowledge of modding to a ridiculous extent. Instead of maturing and realizing how one can improve the game, one will continue his pathetic expedition of humiliating himself for dishonest advantages. To those who do this, I highly suggest you turn to option 1. Below are some of the incredible accomplishments of those modders who have taken option 1. These modders are known as “Cheaters.”
The following is a quote from a very respected member of the Halo modding community:
Tural wrote:Xbox Live modding is bad. All of it. No part of Live modding should be tolerated on any site. Anyone wishing to do so is not welcome in the Halo modding community. That is not what modding should be. By modding on Live, you are setting the absolute worst example of modding that anyone could ever set. The same people that think they're modding "just" on Custom Games are the same people who hate people that stereotype modding as cheating. Kind of ironic considering that modding on Live is almost entirely correlated, in public opinion, as well as community opinion, to cheating. Live modders are their own worst enemy. Nobody who mods on Live deserves, nor gains any respect from the true community. Congratulations, you succeeded in making people stereotype modders to be like you. I hope you're happy that you were able to single-handedly dismantle any hopes of legitimate modders to be taken seriously.

How to start becoming a Respected modder:
Professional modders know and master all these techniques –
If you release a map containing all of these mod types, you will be creating a professional mod that will lead you to respect. Most of these are fairly difficult modding types, and are not recommended to beginners.

Why We Mod

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(Video by Exile Lord. Mods shown are creations from professional Halo 2 modders.)

My Final Thoughts:

I post this to help the modding community. If anything you have read seems to you needlessly rude, ask yourself, how else am I supposed to show my concern for this issue? Again, I post this in hope of creating a stronger, better, more professional community. I hoped this has been help to anyone. Have a great day!

A Fellow Modder,
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This needs to be stickied.
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:? No tut for effect edits? Those are always usefull. :P not trying to flame, just being a smart ass.
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Good jerb zone face. =D
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Added effects.
Anything else?
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Zone 117 wrote:Added effects.
Anything else?
I don't think theirs anything else, you basically covered everything.
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Ok, I just added my "why we mod" to the thread.
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Nice job. Zone FTW :)
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This has nothing to do with the process of actually creating a great mod, but more of the final phase: the actual post. Grammer I think speaks for itself, and a few tutorials for taking pictures with Yelo too I think would be good. You could, I guess link to mimesis' or some other post generator also, although I despise such things, they can give a beginner ideas about a layout that would interest..
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Re: How to Become a Respected Modder

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Meh, I don't know how to do sp->mp conversions, skin, model, script, or add water...your guidelines are shit :? And I simply laugh at the idea of a "professional" modder :P
Zone 117 wrote:75% of all modders have started modding with cheating. Now, before you make unfair assumptions, continue reading.
Where did that 75% come from, other than your ass? Someone else seems to be making some assumptions as well ;P
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xbox7887 wrote:Meh, I don't know how to do sp->mp conversions, skin, model, script, or add water...your guidelines are **** :? And I simply laugh at the idea of a "professional" modder :P
Zone 117 wrote:75% of all modders have started modding with cheating. Now, before you make unfair assumptions, continue reading.
Where did that 75% come from, other than your ass? Someone else seems to be making some assumptions as well ;P

lol very good point, i didnt even think about cheating when i started
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xbox7887 wrote:Meh, I don't know how to do sp->mp conversions, skin, model, script, or add water...your guidelines are **** :? And I simply laugh at the idea of a "professional" modder :P
You made a revolutionary trainer, not everybody is capable of that. So stfu =p
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Zone 117 wrote:75% of all modders have started modding with cheating. Now, before you make unfair assumptions, continue reading.
Where did that 75% come from, other than your ass? Someone else seems to be making some assumptions as well ;P
Well, 375 people out of the 500 on my aim list found out about modding from seeing people do it over XBL. Then did the exact same thing until the found out about our type of modding.
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Give the guy a break he created a list of key attributes in a modification.

This list can teach people with less experience at modifying and make something thats actually worthwhile, and if people feel better about them selves considering them as "Pro Modders" I say let them.
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Umbral wrote:Give the guy a break he created a list of key attributes in a modification.

This list can teach people with less experience at modifying and make something thats actually worthwhile, and if people feel better about them selves considering them as "Pro Modders" I say let them.
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zone pwns all.
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Who is to say any of us are professionals? Who is the judge? I clearly haven't released anything within the last year and have only "mastered" (actually mastering is not the word, more like accomplished) 3 of these topics. However, I guess if you really want to get people to start trying hard to make descent mods; this would be useful! :D

Looks like I need to get to work! :P

Ignore the hostility! :P :P :P

Hahahahah! I didn't even see xbox's post! I'm with that kidd. :)

OH and one more thing :wink:
I found out about modding when the cache editor was released for Halo Xbox. Yeha! I ain't part of the in crowd!
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DoorM4n wrote:Who is to say any of us are professionals? Who is the judge? I clearly haven't released anything within the last year and have only "mastered" 3 of these topics. However, I guess if you really want to get people to start trying hard to make descent mods; this would be useful! :D

Looks like I need to get to work! :P

Ignore the hostility! :P :P :P
I'm pretty sure his outlook on professional modding is people who take modding seriously enough to make great mods, that aren't cheating mods.
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DoorM4n wrote:Who is to say any of us are professionals? Who is the judge?

etc etc...



I found out about modding when the cache editor was released for Halo Xbox. Yeha! I ain't part of the in crowd!

seriously, if find this post to be shenanigans, i highly doubt you asked 375 people if tey started out as xbox live modders. sure we don't like cheaters but this whole theory of "professional" modders and earning this e-respect is ridiculous. do it for one reason and one reason only, fun. if your mod is a racetrack or projectile swaps or auto-aim or a well thought out skin/mod does it matter? no as long as someone is enjoying it. there are no medals for this, no declarations. be happy in knowing someone else out there might be playing something you put effort into and enjoying it.
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