Change Biped in Game

[ryan_mckenzie]

...is it possible? Sure would be cool

[bcnipod]

If anything:
http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=77585

[Andrew_b]

Ryan, what are you asking? Are you asking how to change which character you are, or literally change the biped in the middle of the game? If you were asking how to change which character you are, you really need to read some tutorials. It's one of the easiest things to do.

[ryan_mckenzie]

No, I was wondering if it was possible to change your biped DURING gameplay

[bcnipod]

No, I was wondering if it was possible to change your biped DURING gameplay

look at my post, if that does not work, then I don't believe you can.

[Andrew_b]

Scripting.

[ryan_mckenzie]

No, I was wondering if it was possible to change your biped DURING gameplay

look at my post, if that does not work, then I don't believe you can.

Sorry, I couldn't quite understand how I could achieve this with the Halo Memory editor. Any details? And, I'm not much for scripting either, but I sure could give it a shot

(Oh, and isn't the halo memory editor for PC only, and not CE?)

[bobbysoon]

The easy way would be to wait for someone to figure out a way to customize the necisary script commands, and learn to script so you can use them. I think it's questionable that this will happen, but it's possible since the sauce opening has commenced. (search Modacity for 'open sauce', once it online again)
The hard way, which would have limiting results, but implements the current capabilities, would be to make your self a custom biped. The first person model can't permutate, so you'd need to have a pair of arms for each character, and use the animations of the weapons they hold (i can't think of another way) to have only the desired fp arms in view. The player would spawn unarmed, and would assume an identity by automatically picking up a weapon. A script can set the 3rd person model (which is visable to other players) based on which weapon is held. So, a player could spawn in a spawn room, pick a weapon of the weapons available to his team which have the animations using the model for that team's character, and be teleported into the gameplay
or something like that.
no. its not possible, unless you have alot of time to kill

[BLO0D_DEMON]

The easy way would be to wait for someone to figure out a way to customize the necisary script commands, and learn to script so you can use them. I think it's questionable that this will happen, but it's possible since the sauce opening has commenced. (search Modacity for 'open sauce', once it online again)
The hard way, which would have limiting results, but implements the current capabilities, would be to make your self a custom biped. The first person model can't permutate, so you'd need to have a pair of arms for each character, and use the animations of the weapons they hold (i can't think of another way) to have only the desired fp arms in view. The player would spawn unarmed, and would assume an identity by automatically picking up a weapon. A script can set the 3rd person model (which is visable to other players) based on which weapon is held. So, a player could spawn in a spawn room, pick a weapon of the weapons available to his team which have the animations using the model for that team's character, and be teleported into the gameplay
or something like that.
no. its not possible, unless you have alot of time to kill

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[ryan_mckenzie]

Blood Demon, don't spam my thread.

Well, (for once), the hard way sounds great, and beneficial. Since I only need to see OTHER players unique bipeds, and not my own, this is great. And the weapon trigger is pretty much exactly what I was after. Has this been scripted before? Any further details as to how this can be achieved.
Thanks for all the help so far, this is awesome

no. its not possible, unless you have alot of time to kill

Does that apply to the "hard way"
'Cause I don't want to pour hours of effort into this idea.

[Andrew_b]

The easy way would be to wait for someone to figure out a way to customize the necisary script commands, and learn to script so you can use them. I think it's questionable that this will happen, but it's possible since the sauce opening has commenced. (search Modacity for 'open sauce', once it online again)
The hard way, which would have limiting results, but implements the current capabilities, would be to make your self a custom biped. The first person model can't permutate, so you'd need to have a pair of arms for each character, and use the animations of the weapons they hold (i can't think of another way) to have only the desired fp arms in view. The player would spawn unarmed, and would assume an identity by automatically picking up a weapon. A script can set the 3rd person model (which is visable to other players) based on which weapon is held. So, a player could spawn in a spawn room, pick a weapon of the weapons available to his team which have the animations using the model for that team's character, and be teleported into the gameplay
or something like that.
no. its not possible, unless you have alot of time to kill

As I said, Scripting.

[bobbysoon]

It'd take at least hours, probably days.

What characters are you wanting to use? If the characters are similar enough to the cyborg, it's quite do-able. You'd just need a new gbxmodel

[[RR]RedRene]

Didn't CMT do something like this for a couple of their Maps?

[ryan_mckenzie]

Actually, the biped is just a modified cyborg (not actually made yet), so it's quite simple.

[bobbysoon]

Has this been scripted before? Any further details as to how this can be achieved?

The backpack weapons tags and script are similar to what you need, but i don't know about it having been done before. Maybe CMT did. idk
backpack weapons: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2523

Bluestreak was recently updated to export regions, so be sure to have that: http://ghost.halomaps.org/bluestreak/jms/

[ryan_mckenzie]

The backpack weapons tags and script are similar to what you need, but i don't know about it having been done before. Maybe CMT did. idk
backpack weapons: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2523

Bluestreak was recently updated to export regions, so be sure to have that: http://ghost.halomaps.org/bluestreak/jms/

Cool. If CMT did, then it's probably hard to find, and it's probably difficult to question. Any scripters here, to maybe give a gist of how "hard" or how "easy" this could be? Pickup weapon > Change Biped... Well, that's the idea..

[Corvette19]

Cool. If CMT did, then it's probably hard to find, and it's probably difficult to question. Any scripters here, to maybe give a gist of how "hard" or how "easy" this could be? Pickup weapon > Change Biped... Well, that's the idea..

I opened up the script, and it's done by model permutations in a region.
The script checks for what weapon he's not using, and it shows that model. It's simple when you look at it, I just need to know how to setup model permutations and regions in 3ds Max >_<

[ryan_mckenzie]

I just need to know how to setup model permutations and regions in 3ds Max

I'm guessing that's difficult / time consuming... I can't really get much of an idea here, I mean... Has anything relative to this been done before. Are we saying that, ya this will work, or it's a maybe...

[Corvette19]

I just need to know how to setup model permutations and regions in 3ds Max

I'm guessing that's difficult / time consuming... I can't really get much of an idea here, I mean... Has anything relative to this been done before. Are we saying that, ya this will work, or it's a maybe...

It was done by CAD. Try PM'ing him over at Modacity, I never see him post here. CAD=CtrlAltDestroy btw.
I got the model permutations setup in max though, I just need to know how to actually MAKE them permutations.

[Andrew_b]

Corvette you noob.

You just put them in the same models folder.

example:
data\characters\someone\models\1.jms
data\characters\someone\models\2.jms
data\characters\someone\models\3.jms
data\characters\someone\models\4.jms
data\characters\someone\models\5.jms

That would compile into someone.gbx_model I believe.