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Tural wrote:I don't recall many situations when a Spartan beat an Elite in unarmed combat, let alone at a weaponry disadvantage. I believe there is one instance in the novels of a Spartan fighting a single Elite in unarmed combat, and said Spartan barely won. Elites, no contest whatsoever.

John-117 thew the Spec. Opts. into a Escape pod if I remember correctly.

Tural wrote:For the record, about the Energy Swords, in Another Day at the Beach, the bonus video of the Pelican crash in Mombasa, the Elite's Energy Sword cuts clean through a Battle Rifle, splitting it into two pieces, in one swipe. It cuts through metal like a hot knife through butter.

A lightsaber is basically energy focused though crystals that cancel out each other at the point. It can stop energy projectiles and other lightsabers.

A Plasma Sword on is just that... Super Hot ( In Degrees Kelvin ) Plasma that has been focused in with ( I presume since its not official) a Magnetic Field. It in its Halo 3 Form can Block other swords but not Plasma Projectiles (Splash effect?)

I say Lightsaber.

Aumaan Anubis wrote:Penguins.

Regardless of situation or circumstance, they win.

I agree.

Tural wrote:It would be a toss up. Read the books, the Spartan barely beat an Elite in unarmed combat. Arbiter is arguably more skilled than a normal Elite, it could go either way, and there is no basis for discussing it because there is no definitive answer.

See Quote above.

Elites are the physical equals of SPARTANS.

SPARTANS have reaction times of under a millisecond; the reason they didn't put this in the game is that it would be grotesquely unbalanced for the player, even on Legendary.

But even if a SPARTAN was unarmed, in close quarters, with an elite with a sword, it would go either way.

In a simple, hand-to-hand battle between a normal elite and the chief, I would say chief would win because he's just as strong, and faster.

But against the Arbiter . . . that would be balanced.

You're going largely on speculation, when there is direct evidence in front of you. No reason to point out the physical equivalent and whatnot. There is a whole, detailed description of an unarmed fight between a Spartan and and Elite in one of the novels, as we stated. You're just reiterating what was already said, except it was previously said with evidence. I'm not sure I see the point.

[IA]Paul wrote:Elites are the physical equals of SPARTANS.

It's rather well known that they are largely similar.

[IA]Paul wrote:SPARTANS have reaction times of under a millisecond; the reason they didn't put this in the game is that it would be grotesquely unbalanced for the player, even on Legendary.

Doesn't have much to do with this discussion at all. This thread is about story, not gameplay.

[IA]Paul wrote:But even if a SPARTAN was unarmed, in close quarters, with an elite with a sword, it would go either way.

The Elite would wipe the floor with him, barring obscure circumstances (omg spartan knocks sword out of his hand). It would not go either way. A Spartan and Elite fought in unarmed combat and the Spartan barely won. What makes you think that if the Elite had a sword he's going to be in the exact same position as if he didn't? He would have a massive advantage...

[IA]Paul wrote:In a simple, hand-to-hand battle between a normal elite and the chief, I would say chief would win because he's just as strong, and faster.

Already documented, and it's not as if it's an easy fight because they're 'just as strong and faster.' It's very close, it is a very difficult fight, and it will always be a toss-up in fair, unarmed combat.

[IA]Paul wrote:But against the Arbiter . . . that would be balanced.

Not much of a difference, really. Master Chief may be above other Spartans by a bit, but he is by no means a superhero among them. Same with Arbiter. It's a negligible difference in any standard situation.

Tural wrote:For the record, about the Energy Swords, in Another Day at the Beach, the bonus video of the Pelican crash in Mombasa, the Elite's Energy Sword cuts clean through a Battle Rifle, splitting it into two pieces, in one swipe. It cuts through metal like a hot knife through butter.

D'oh. You're right. I just always imagined Energy Swords as being electrified pointy things more than concentrated plasma, or something of that sort.

shadowkhas wrote:

Tural wrote:For the record, about the Energy Swords, in Another Day at the Beach, the bonus video of the Pelican crash in Mombasa, the Elite's Energy Sword cuts clean through a Battle Rifle, splitting it into two pieces, in one swipe. It cuts through metal like a hot knife through butter.

D'oh. You're right. I just always imagined Energy Swords as being electrified pointy things more than concentrated plasma, or something of that sort.

even if they were they would still kill you

guysullavin wrote:even if they were they would still kill you

They'd be a lot easier to block.

But wasn't the elite that the cheif threw in the pod the Arbiter before halo 2

jackson117 wrote:But wasn't the elite that the cheif threw in the pod the Arbiter before halo 2

...what?

there were more arbiters than the arbiter in halo 2, so he means the arbiter before the arbiter?

Or, it's just jackson117.

jackson117 wrote:But wasn't the elite that the cheif threw in the pod the Arbiter before halo 2

Ow. My Brain.

Some one plz Lock? There is nothing more to discuss here.