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HaloGen VS Halo Wars........

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:22 am
by (}{)alo
How Many here think it is wrong what Microsoft did to The Makers of Halogen?

I know this is VERY late (sorry)

tell me (or others) why you think Microsoft has wronged themselves and should have not closed them?

Last time I looked we are all still here.


BTW if bill gates sees this I have one thing for him, you don't have the right to do this, Halo Came out AFTER you bought them and you got rid of them after Halo 3 so as I see it. Because they made the idea first, they should be telling you to stop on all work of Halo wars, Their Idea not yours

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:33 am
by Tural
ITT: People are ignorant of legalities and logic.
Microsoft owns the rights to the Halo titles, they can do whatever they want. You have no factual basis for any ridiculous claim you are making. Quit whining about such a trivial thing. You are wrong, that's it. :roll:

I'll now dismantle your arguments:
(}{)alo wrote:BTW if bill gates sees this I have one thing for him
Bill Gates does not make these decisions at all. You're just speaking from an ignorant basis with the absurd idea he controls every decision.
(}{)alo wrote:you don't have the right to do this
First argument aside, yes, they do, in every way.
(}{)alo wrote:Halo Came out AFTER you bought them and you got rid of them after Halo 3 so as I see it.
Yes, Halo was made under the Microsoft ownership, which is why Microsoft owns the Halo titles. You just defeated your own argument because you don't know what you're talking about. Furthermore, you see it incorrectly. They did not get rid of Bungie, Bungie opted to become an independent company once again. More ignorance is rampant here.
(}{)alo wrote:Because they made the idea first
Ideas aren't copyrights.
(}{)alo wrote:they should be telling you to stop on all work of Halo wars
They don't own the rights to Halo Wars, they can't tell them to stop.
(}{)alo wrote:Their Idea not yours
See previous two points.

So essentially, not a single word in your claim was factually accurate. You are wrong on every front, and you don't have any idea how any of this works. You're just whining about something with no facts at all. Good job.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:36 am
by (}{)alo
so your saying they can shut us down when ever they fell like it?

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:41 am
by Tural
(}{)alo wrote:so your saying they can shut us down when ever they fell like it?


I'm sorry but I just looked at my Halo Box and CD and the cover. I don't see COPYRIGHTED ANYWHERE on it.
This is a fan site, it is not the same as making a title with the copyrighted name. However, they could shut this site down for other reasons, unrelated to what you're saying.

That's a very dumb thing to say. Are you insinuating there are no copyrights on the Halo titles or content? How about you ponder that for a while and get back to me when you realize how untrue that is. :roll:

All aboard the "Microsoft sucks" bandwagon! Toot toot!

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:45 am
by (}{)alo
no but some of do make mods and by doing so we are breaking the Copyrights that have been placed in the game. We all can get sued for this with your logic......

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:46 am
by Tural
Yes, we could. We are circumventing copy protections, which is illegal. That is true. However, you compared the situation to Halogen, which is not the same.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:47 am
by (}{)alo
but they made the models and the skins that were made for there mod

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:48 am
by Tural
You are missing the point, again.
They were mirroring Halo content, using the copyrighted material of the ideas and title. Just because you make it yourself does not give you legal right to it. I can't model my own Master Chief and use it in a game, because it is still a copyrighted entity by Microsoft.

You don't understand the first thing about how copyrights work, so I suggest you quit your frivolous arguing while you're behind, as you're going nowhere.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:26 pm
by jackson117
yes but maybe bunie and EA and vavle could overpwn microsfot lol.

ANYWAY my real point is bungie would become a independaunt company and could sue microsfot fot making too many laws like breaking mods and films from fan fiction.

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:27 pm
by Tural
No.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:57 pm
by jackson117
hey I there are halo RTS mods for other games like star wars empire at war.


and it is still going