Halo 2 - Storyline Theory & Questions (Long)
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 6:09 am
Hello people,
First time posting here but i've noticed some interesting things floating around the world of halo. Im a big halo fan like all of us here and wanted to share my thoughts about ideas ive noticed and ask for you guys to help me with some questions i have. I don't know if anyone has posted these ideas already but i figured i would share anyway. Oh and i mgiht be stating a lot of information that is already said and known but its for people who may not know. Ok Here i go...
Halo 2 -
Ok first i have a year free subscription to GamePro magazine and noticed the new halo 2 ad in it. It said quote "They don't want to destory our planet...just mankind. On Nov 9. Earth will never be the same." I might be stating the obivious but somebody has to say it. Heres my idea of the storyline of Halo 2. First what if the flood someone, somehow found there way to the covie (covienet or how ever you spell it), planet and put there planet in danger. (If you remember in halo guilty spark said that the covie openned the "gate" that let the flood out...and also that the only way EVEN mister mix master chief could kill em was destory halo (about the size of a tiny moon). Ok so the fool invade the covie homeworld or neighboring moons, SO the covie is looking for more alternatives to help them in the fight..they can't win. We show up and they some how learn of earth and its nice little trees, fishes, birds, grass and noticed wow its so beautiful and great it was ...expect for one thing...humans live there and they breathe this crappy gas/type thing called oxygen (yeah i know some covie breathe oxygen but lets just stick with my theory for a sec). So they decide to invade earth and take it over to escape the flood.
Ok how i got to this conclusion is the several clues bungie has been throwing around in my face (yeah i got bungies cell phone number it starts with 555). First the new screenshots of the grunts with out breathers. This could mean that they are trying to adapt to oxygen to breathe the earths air. Another new character is the brute...which when i first saw disappointed me because he looked like a monkey type human..then it hit me DUH! the missing link! I know its a stretch to believe the brute is the missing link but it would further an idea of covies trying to take over earth...maybe they liked kidnaped humans (..and unknowing cows) and did all kinds of experiments on them (including probes and brain washing) and they became some brutes. I know i know OR this could just be another stage of covie evolution and speices. But, the idea of them adapting to earth air and/or being human bi-products isn't THAT far fetched for the halo universe. Another reason i believe this is because in the ad..they really (to me) stress the whole earth concept, it could be because they just want to "hit close to home" by showing that earth is the covie's next target. But i was thinking that the covei technology is way different and sometimes far suprior then ours. So they could destroy the earth if they REALLY wanted to...(im thinking if one battle cruiser like the Pillar of Autumn can destory an small moon/type ring like halo, then on earth (where they build these things in mass quantity) they are sitting nucular bombs waiting for someone to hit them with a sledge hammer. But maybe bungie didn't think about it like that...and the covie's just want to destroy all mankind because we are sinners in the hands of there god.
Questions-
Ok here are some questions i wonder about, and noticed about the halo internet world. First has anybody noticed that bungie is REALLY pushing this whole online multiplayer? Personally i love multiplayer and online is great but i don't and probably wont get Xbox live so im worried that because of all the extras in multiplayer online that the normal xbox-offline multiplayer will suffer. One big reason i state this is because first lets all thing who owns Halo in the long run. Mr. Mircosoft himself Bill Gates. Now he knows that we know that he knows that parents know that master chief knows that halo is the biggest best selling, most profitable game to hit a console...ever..of ever...and ever (amen). So to support xbox live (and make more money for the charging of so..) he would ask bungie to stress the online multiplayer aspect of halo 2 more then just sitting at home with your buddy smacking him in the face with nacho chips everytime you take his head out with a sniper rifle. I have Halo Pc and download Halo Ce and to me the best part about Halo Pc (and most pc games) is that online is free! I paid my dues to the cable/dsl company when i pay my bill i would rather not pay mr soft himself to pay halo online..just to play multiplayer in full...it seems very similar to online rpg games such as Finaly fantasy online, and Evercrack *cough* i mean Everquest. Don't get me wrong now im not saying that halo mutliplayer will suck because it online, just saying im noticing in all the screenshots and videos that they only stress the multiplayer online aspect of it.
To dive deeper into this idea of them stressing multiplayer, i noticed they don't show any flood (i know they are doing this to build more questions) and they dont show much about he new level landscapes (all pictures with single player screens are tight and close shots where you can see the layout of the land.) Im just wondering what will the landscape be more like? I also noticed a lot of reused textures and such...im hopeing i only saw the earlier versions of halo 2 and the new version will have more eye dropping effects/textures and innovative ideas.
-Weapons Cars & Superweapons Oh my!
Ok first off lets talk about the duel weilding option i hated it when i first saw it but the more i read into it the better i felt..i worried that they would just make it a John Woo film and add it just for the "cool" factor. But i read that they will shoot independently and that you can hold one covie and one human weapon independently as apposed to only two covie and two humans. This means that you can shoot "lets just say" an flood with an human gun [smg weapon of choice it seems] and an covie with an covie weapon [needler weapon of choice it seems]. This is a great idea but i worry with this option there is a lot of freaking arsenal your carrying. I mean how many weapons will we (the player) be able to use, i know they added the elite covie energy sword and battle rifle. SO lets say i want to carry an energy sword and battle rifle and two needlers will i be able to do so, is that to much? Or how about energy sword rocketlauncher and alien pistol. Speaking of pistols people will be so dissappointed (not me personally) that the human pistol is GONE! I know you skeptics are saying "its still there, they just arent showing it yet because they redesigned it", nope i strongly believe they got rid of it because of the battle rifle. To me this will help otu in the multiplayer aspect of the game because the pistol on Halo Pc was more dominate then any other weapon (can out snipe sniper rilfe, more powerful then assult rifle, further range then shotgun, and more accurate then rocketlauncher, not to mention faster reload then most weapons). Because of the battle rifles zoom technology and set up i believe thats why they got rid of the pistol and assult rifle. Ok next up is the vehicles, im wondering about the battle damage. In most footage of the vehicles they explode pretty quick. Is that true? I mean whats the point of driving if its just gonna get blown up after like 3 shots. The hog in halo was industructable which i loved because the only problem you could run into is that it got stuck somewhere. I love the boost feature on the ghost but will the hog have anything similar (nitrous from 2 fast 2 furious with custom graphics and neons would rule...just kidding), i know it has the new emergency break that will allow more control for the jeep of choice but will it be able to handle the ghost new speed better weapon and easiness to get out of a fight, i guess thats where the skills come in. Ok next question is about the rocket launchers of sorts. In the pc verison they added the plasma cannon, they havn't said if they installed it into halo 2 but that would rock..they said they added the brute weapon but will we be able to use it? Or will it be like the energy sword was like in Halo. So far the only stationary weapons they have are the stationary guns and turrents. Will there be any more stationary weapons such as mortors and such. And any news about the sheilds and or radar (motion detector for the anal). I hopeing the shields have been upgraded also that would be nice.
A. I.
Ok the first halo was known for its revolutionary A. I. that would duck and/or call for other help when in trouble. They would also work as a group and know when to melee attack when it was needed. Will this be better in halo 2? I mean will Halo 2 be like Halo on legendary (with the flamming ninjas and such). I hope it has setting of difficulty as in halo. I just dont want to be pissed off at a game so beautiful and immursive would keep me locked in a battle with 2 or 3 brutes for 5 hours just to make it seem longer. Will the marines freaking help this time? i mean last time they were practically worthless other then warthog jumping or laughing while they ran around with an plasma grenade on there neck. Next i heard/seen that the marines will be driving there happy asses around themselves finally with out Mister Cheif being the soccor mom lugging the kids to battle. Now will this mean that master chief will be able to hitch a ride but only through destined locations on rails (such as a rollercoaster cart in disneyland). Or will the A.I. script allow the drivers to drive around obsticles such as explosions or run into/towars enemies to try and run them over. I doubt it will be like that and most likely make the warthog drive in a set pattern, because it is easier to create and control without having such errors like having an enemy drive into an wall constantly.
Ok i think that just about does it for my Questions and Anwsers. Just wanted to give you guys something to think about and discuss. Sorry it was so long but this was somthing that bothered me for some time. I will be taking off work for two days to buy/beat Halo 2 and be the first to post that i've beaten the game (with spoiler screenshots
).
First time posting here but i've noticed some interesting things floating around the world of halo. Im a big halo fan like all of us here and wanted to share my thoughts about ideas ive noticed and ask for you guys to help me with some questions i have. I don't know if anyone has posted these ideas already but i figured i would share anyway. Oh and i mgiht be stating a lot of information that is already said and known but its for people who may not know. Ok Here i go...
Halo 2 -
Ok first i have a year free subscription to GamePro magazine and noticed the new halo 2 ad in it. It said quote "They don't want to destory our planet...just mankind. On Nov 9. Earth will never be the same." I might be stating the obivious but somebody has to say it. Heres my idea of the storyline of Halo 2. First what if the flood someone, somehow found there way to the covie (covienet or how ever you spell it), planet and put there planet in danger. (If you remember in halo guilty spark said that the covie openned the "gate" that let the flood out...and also that the only way EVEN mister mix master chief could kill em was destory halo (about the size of a tiny moon). Ok so the fool invade the covie homeworld or neighboring moons, SO the covie is looking for more alternatives to help them in the fight..they can't win. We show up and they some how learn of earth and its nice little trees, fishes, birds, grass and noticed wow its so beautiful and great it was ...expect for one thing...humans live there and they breathe this crappy gas/type thing called oxygen (yeah i know some covie breathe oxygen but lets just stick with my theory for a sec). So they decide to invade earth and take it over to escape the flood.
Ok how i got to this conclusion is the several clues bungie has been throwing around in my face (yeah i got bungies cell phone number it starts with 555). First the new screenshots of the grunts with out breathers. This could mean that they are trying to adapt to oxygen to breathe the earths air. Another new character is the brute...which when i first saw disappointed me because he looked like a monkey type human..then it hit me DUH! the missing link! I know its a stretch to believe the brute is the missing link but it would further an idea of covies trying to take over earth...maybe they liked kidnaped humans (..and unknowing cows) and did all kinds of experiments on them (including probes and brain washing) and they became some brutes. I know i know OR this could just be another stage of covie evolution and speices. But, the idea of them adapting to earth air and/or being human bi-products isn't THAT far fetched for the halo universe. Another reason i believe this is because in the ad..they really (to me) stress the whole earth concept, it could be because they just want to "hit close to home" by showing that earth is the covie's next target. But i was thinking that the covei technology is way different and sometimes far suprior then ours. So they could destroy the earth if they REALLY wanted to...(im thinking if one battle cruiser like the Pillar of Autumn can destory an small moon/type ring like halo, then on earth (where they build these things in mass quantity) they are sitting nucular bombs waiting for someone to hit them with a sledge hammer. But maybe bungie didn't think about it like that...and the covie's just want to destroy all mankind because we are sinners in the hands of there god.
Questions-
Ok here are some questions i wonder about, and noticed about the halo internet world. First has anybody noticed that bungie is REALLY pushing this whole online multiplayer? Personally i love multiplayer and online is great but i don't and probably wont get Xbox live so im worried that because of all the extras in multiplayer online that the normal xbox-offline multiplayer will suffer. One big reason i state this is because first lets all thing who owns Halo in the long run. Mr. Mircosoft himself Bill Gates. Now he knows that we know that he knows that parents know that master chief knows that halo is the biggest best selling, most profitable game to hit a console...ever..of ever...and ever (amen). So to support xbox live (and make more money for the charging of so..) he would ask bungie to stress the online multiplayer aspect of halo 2 more then just sitting at home with your buddy smacking him in the face with nacho chips everytime you take his head out with a sniper rifle. I have Halo Pc and download Halo Ce and to me the best part about Halo Pc (and most pc games) is that online is free! I paid my dues to the cable/dsl company when i pay my bill i would rather not pay mr soft himself to pay halo online..just to play multiplayer in full...it seems very similar to online rpg games such as Finaly fantasy online, and Evercrack *cough* i mean Everquest. Don't get me wrong now im not saying that halo mutliplayer will suck because it online, just saying im noticing in all the screenshots and videos that they only stress the multiplayer online aspect of it.
To dive deeper into this idea of them stressing multiplayer, i noticed they don't show any flood (i know they are doing this to build more questions) and they dont show much about he new level landscapes (all pictures with single player screens are tight and close shots where you can see the layout of the land.) Im just wondering what will the landscape be more like? I also noticed a lot of reused textures and such...im hopeing i only saw the earlier versions of halo 2 and the new version will have more eye dropping effects/textures and innovative ideas.
-Weapons Cars & Superweapons Oh my!
Ok first off lets talk about the duel weilding option i hated it when i first saw it but the more i read into it the better i felt..i worried that they would just make it a John Woo film and add it just for the "cool" factor. But i read that they will shoot independently and that you can hold one covie and one human weapon independently as apposed to only two covie and two humans. This means that you can shoot "lets just say" an flood with an human gun [smg weapon of choice it seems] and an covie with an covie weapon [needler weapon of choice it seems]. This is a great idea but i worry with this option there is a lot of freaking arsenal your carrying. I mean how many weapons will we (the player) be able to use, i know they added the elite covie energy sword and battle rifle. SO lets say i want to carry an energy sword and battle rifle and two needlers will i be able to do so, is that to much? Or how about energy sword rocketlauncher and alien pistol. Speaking of pistols people will be so dissappointed (not me personally) that the human pistol is GONE! I know you skeptics are saying "its still there, they just arent showing it yet because they redesigned it", nope i strongly believe they got rid of it because of the battle rifle. To me this will help otu in the multiplayer aspect of the game because the pistol on Halo Pc was more dominate then any other weapon (can out snipe sniper rilfe, more powerful then assult rifle, further range then shotgun, and more accurate then rocketlauncher, not to mention faster reload then most weapons). Because of the battle rifles zoom technology and set up i believe thats why they got rid of the pistol and assult rifle. Ok next up is the vehicles, im wondering about the battle damage. In most footage of the vehicles they explode pretty quick. Is that true? I mean whats the point of driving if its just gonna get blown up after like 3 shots. The hog in halo was industructable which i loved because the only problem you could run into is that it got stuck somewhere. I love the boost feature on the ghost but will the hog have anything similar (nitrous from 2 fast 2 furious with custom graphics and neons would rule...just kidding), i know it has the new emergency break that will allow more control for the jeep of choice but will it be able to handle the ghost new speed better weapon and easiness to get out of a fight, i guess thats where the skills come in. Ok next question is about the rocket launchers of sorts. In the pc verison they added the plasma cannon, they havn't said if they installed it into halo 2 but that would rock..they said they added the brute weapon but will we be able to use it? Or will it be like the energy sword was like in Halo. So far the only stationary weapons they have are the stationary guns and turrents. Will there be any more stationary weapons such as mortors and such. And any news about the sheilds and or radar (motion detector for the anal). I hopeing the shields have been upgraded also that would be nice.
A. I.
Ok the first halo was known for its revolutionary A. I. that would duck and/or call for other help when in trouble. They would also work as a group and know when to melee attack when it was needed. Will this be better in halo 2? I mean will Halo 2 be like Halo on legendary (with the flamming ninjas and such). I hope it has setting of difficulty as in halo. I just dont want to be pissed off at a game so beautiful and immursive would keep me locked in a battle with 2 or 3 brutes for 5 hours just to make it seem longer. Will the marines freaking help this time? i mean last time they were practically worthless other then warthog jumping or laughing while they ran around with an plasma grenade on there neck. Next i heard/seen that the marines will be driving there happy asses around themselves finally with out Mister Cheif being the soccor mom lugging the kids to battle. Now will this mean that master chief will be able to hitch a ride but only through destined locations on rails (such as a rollercoaster cart in disneyland). Or will the A.I. script allow the drivers to drive around obsticles such as explosions or run into/towars enemies to try and run them over. I doubt it will be like that and most likely make the warthog drive in a set pattern, because it is easier to create and control without having such errors like having an enemy drive into an wall constantly.
Ok i think that just about does it for my Questions and Anwsers. Just wanted to give you guys something to think about and discuss. Sorry it was so long but this was somthing that bothered me for some time. I will be taking off work for two days to buy/beat Halo 2 and be the first to post that i've beaten the game (with spoiler screenshots
).