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PPF Files and HaloCE maps

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:09 pm
by Grenadiac
Well, it has come to my attention that some people (you know who you are) have been complaining about not being able to upload a certain modified version of Wartorn Cove 3. The modification basically exchanges shotguns with the Rocket Launcher and Fuel Rod Gun.

So, do we think this mod stinks and shouldn't be allowed? Of course not. On the contrary, I think it is a great idea and would probably improve the gameplay considerably. So why on earth would we want to discourage this map from being uploaded?

The answer, as some of you probably understand, is because we do not want 6MB mapfiles uploaded when a patch file will suffice. If given the choice between a 6MB download and a 2KB download, which one will affect the server performance and bandwidth costs? PPF files store the changes to a mapfile, so if a mapfile is modified only slightly...say from tag swapping...you don't need to download the entire mapfile, only the changes.

So, you might say to yourself, "Yeah Grenadiac, but one mapfile doesn't matter. Plus, it's simpler to just upload a map. I don't have to apply some patch and rename the file". Well, one map does not matter, but what about 10 maps? 20 maps? 50 maps? The number and size of files affects everybody that uses this server, not to mention it keeps my server costs down.

Our goal isn't to be dictators about what gets uploaded. Our goal is to keep the system running well. If that means users need to be take a few extra minutes to figure out how to make PPF files and apply them, everyone will be better off.

We even have *gasp* tutorials on how to do these very activities:

http://www.halomods.com/site2/geeklog-1 ... 0154223772

http://www.halomods.com/site2/geeklog-1 ... 0143040845

Now if the people that spent their time uploading the modified version of Wartorn Cove and fighting the moderators all day long had actually spent that time making a PPF file, the moderators could concentrate on deleting spam and other flames instead of dealing with you. For those people, I simply request that you spend your energy learning something new rather than dragging the quality of these forums down.

For those users that actually care about this server and the halomods community, you are probably the only reason I keep shelling out $300 a month (not to mention tons of my personal time) to keep this place going, thanks for your participation - you are the heart of this community that makes people stay.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:11 pm
by Veegie[Temp]
Amen.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:11 pm
by mr_abc
well i'm glad you cleared that up Grenadiac

you area fucking douche bag

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:52 pm
by (ghs) Rebel
my clan depends on that map. We have search everywhere for that map. now its gone. god i hope you fucking burn in hell you stupid nazi.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:06 pm
by [M]Havoc
i think thats a little exetreme^... but honestly, u guys just deleted about 70% of all the files u used to have like a week ago... so its not goin to make u live on the street

Re: you area fucking douche bag

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:29 pm
by {DSC}Solid Snake
(ghs) Rebel wrote:my clan depends on that map. We have search everywhere for that map. now its gone. god i hope you fucking burn in hell you stupid nazi.
Host it on your clan site then


Grenadiac! *Raises gun in salute*

Huzzah! Huzzah!

Re: you area fucking douche bag

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:15 pm
by Edwin
(ghs) Rebel wrote:my clan depends on that map. We have search everywhere for that map. now its gone. god i hope you fucking burn in hell you stupid nazi.
Hey, you do NOT under ANY crcumstances talk in that manner to Grenadiac. You don't like what he does with his site? Tough, Gren is footing the bills for this site for YOUR pleasure, if he wanted he could pull the plug right now and this site would stop existing. Grenadiac has put a lot of time and effort into this site and deserves the UTMOST respect from members of this community, and you damn well show him that respect or i will show you my metephorical boot in your metephorical ass! And after i'm through with you, the Admins will eat what's left for desert! DISMISSED, MAGGOT!

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:44 pm
by Peng
it pains u that no1 likes u, doesn't Edwin?
Its ok, we're here for u.
Now breathe innnnnnnnnnn
and outttttttttt.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:47 pm
by Edwin
Peng wrote:it pains u that no1 likes u, doesn't Edwin?
yeeeeeaaaahhhh, and where did you see anything in that post about people not liking me?

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:48 pm
by SnipaMasta11
grens exactly right

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:48 pm
by Veegie[Temp]
The two people from GHS that have posted in here are really proving themselve's to be assholes.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:49 pm
by Veegie[Temp]
And edwin and peng, take it to aim or pm, don't spam this topic

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:49 pm
by Peng
trixtaguy2 wrote:grens exactly right
I'm sorry I can't hear u, ur head's so far up gren's ass, it muffles ur voice. Try kissin the cheeks next time, instead of going for the whole enchilada.

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:50 pm
by Peng
Vegito619 wrote:The two people from GHS that have posted in here are really proving themselve's to be assholes.
who from ghs? I heard that that's not evena clan anymore, weird?

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:52 am
by argrn
it doesnt matter, stop spamming the topic, shutup, and deal with the rules

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:27 pm
by Peng
yes master

Re: PPF Files and HaloCE maps

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:36 pm
by edgar
Grenadiac wrote:. The modification basically exchanges shotguns with the Rocket Launcher and Fuel Rod Gun.

just to clear this up its the rokets and fuels get replaced by the shotgun

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:27 pm
by HazardousExecutioner
you know with people like rebel and peng, its a wonder gren still keeps the site up....cheers to the the halomods supporters like solidsnake or vegito or myself

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:13 pm
by Peng
yes because i didnt stop fuckin around

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:56 am
by HazardousExecutioner
ummm okay....sheesh grow up