I'll fix the site.

[SamPH]

My Proposal:
I've also offered a proposal, whereby I host the website on one of my servers, which are professional servers on at least gigabit lines, I'd let Iron_Forge be admin, and to essentially run the site, whilst only having one advert at the top/bottom of the page, which would fund SG until he's repaid the money he's put into the site. From the point where it's paid off his costs, I would entirely remove ads altogether. Running the site ad-free, on a server with 99.9% up time. The only way this can happen, is if SourceGuy agrees to let me host the site, remove all the ads but the main one at the top or bottom, he gets all the revenue from the ads (which is entirely reasonable, seeing as the time and effort he put into this site) and I_F would also have to agree to run the site, without owning it. It would basically be a similar situation to before the upgrade, I'd essentially be acting as Gren. in owning the site and hosting it, but I wouldn't be running it, ... I_F would be. I don't know about you guys, but this seems like a win-win situation. SG hasn't gotta worry about anything, he just rakes in the revenue and pays off the money/effort he put into the site, I_F gets to run the place without buying the site, and you guys all get what you want.

Isn't that what got you guys into this suituation in the first place? The person who owns and controlls everything needs to be running the site, not done through some proxy. If something goes wrong the person running the site needs to address the issue as quickly as possible without having to wait for someone else to act aswell.

[Geo]

The problem with this situation was that the site was running on an unstable server. That wouldn't be the case. It's entirely different.

[kibito87]

So I gave this some thought of ooooo 5 seconds and came up with the conclusion that it definitely should just be pushed into the past such as...

- downgrade back to the ppb forums...I think that's what it was called...
- Redo all staff positions to their respective deservers...these off the top of my head:
- Tural
- GTAF
- Shout/ if he wants it...something I remember about him stepping down
- Shadow
- Kirk as Administrator...if he wants as well.

I don't recall there ever being so many complaints or problems as to when these simple things were included. Yes, maybe i'm stating the obvious but these are things that could be done now as a pre-transition if you will...Agree, disagree? I'm going to assume that other little demands need to be met so work from there???

[Geo]

Kirk, as with the other staff resigned. Kirk left because he's in the army or something.

The others resigned, but I feel they had no choice but to.

I don't have a problem if a downgrade is what everyone wants, but I don't think it's going to fix anything.

And besides all of this, I still stand that the site won't thrive unless Halo 3 Modding is 'released'

[SamPH]

And besides all of this, I still stand that the site won't thrive unless Halo 3 Modding is 'released'

but us mere mortals arent good enough for it

[Trulife8342]

And besides all of this, I still stand that the site won't thrive unless Halo 3 Modding is 'released'

It wont happen, Unless everyone here sells their xbox and gets a used one that is pre-NXE, time attacks it, writes assembly allowing you to run unsigned code and not worry about the HyperVisor, And even then they still need to re-write the .xex of H3 to bypass all the RSA checks it does when loading maps. All of which yes has been done....but is still heavily regulated on who gets to have the patched xex and the code to bypass the HV. If anthony, detox or who ever else decides to make a .xex patcher then maybe you still have a shot. The only thing that killed almost all of us is that we ALL upgraded to nXe. you would essentially have to go to gamestop ask for a used one without an HDD for around 100 bucks ask to test it to see if its pre-nxe and if it is. Buy it and get the patches and such. Your essentially buying a 100 dollar mod-chip. Oh and I think you need an infectus to preform the time attack and dump your key. Not too sure though. But if you do then you would need to spend another 40-60 bucks on that chip and install it.

So modding H3 is possible on a system that can be exploited. BUT its up to anthony and them to decide if they would make it public or not. Oh you would also need to run King Kong every time you boot up. Or just make it boot to a cd every time. Xbox Live could not be jeopardized for the simple fact that it wouldn't allow you to xbox live without downloading the update, and if you do download the update with a hacked kernal. Two things could happen, 1.) your banned. 2.) you no longer have a hacked kernal and can't mod.

[Tural]

No reason to downgrade to phpBB2, I_F can make the previous systems work with this board.
Geo can host it if he's willing to do so as Gren, but not as an admin. Not that I had much of a problem with you personally, but I think that your old staff position would be fine with just I_F as admin.

[mxrider108]

Think about what you just said. What if I had no good input in this thread? I personally have been watching this thread quite often to see what other's are saying and to see how this will come to a conclusion. I love how everybody flips out on Source for what he's done and yet missed the big picture where he's kept the forums alive. I'm not here to argue with anybody nor defend Source but your statement irritates me because not everyone needs to just post in this thread to show support and what not. If it were that way, we would have a shit ton of spam and not so many posts that actually mean something. If you would rather everybody just post to show they care, then ok. Be prepared for lots of worthless crap.

If you look at it, you wouldn't have this place to even be bitching about him or what he's done. So nice going.

I'm all for Iron_Forge getting the site and fixing it up and in a sense going back to the way things were. I'd love to see it. I just want to see a calm conclusion that doesn't include everybody picking sides and shutting others out. Don't be difficult, just forgive and forget. The piont of this is to better the community, not tear it down the middle.

Let's fix halomods. Not point fingers and get all pissy with each other. Mistakes have been made, they are in the process of being fixed...Let's appreciate the fact that somebody actually cares enough about this community to put so many resources into it. That doesn't include just money or one/a select group of people...

I_F, thank you for offering your own money time and effort into halomods. I personally appreciate it for the fact that I do enjoy this site and visiting it from time to time. So THANK YOU. Source, THANK YOU for trying and for allowing us to enjoy our community that much more...Even if many were complaining about things.

I do realize where everybody comes from in this situation. It's become kind of difficult to get all my thoughts out and keep them in any recognizable format. If you read all this and see where I come from, then I thank you as well.

Let halomods live on!

Good post--I very much agree. Also, Geo, your proposal sounds quite reasonable. I just hope something can be worked out like the civil adults (I hope) we all are.

[DeadHamster]

You could always buy a Wii card then IM me the code!..

If you have to pay for the site I will do just that. I assume a PM on the site will suffice? PM me if you end up paying for it, I'll go out and get a card.

[WaeV]

+1 to the posts made by current staff members, specifically K_B.

Without jumping on the bandwagon of SG hate, I commend this idea.

[kibito87]

No reason to downgrade to phpBB2, I_F can make the previous systems work with this board.

That sounds splendid. I just through the downgrade out there figuring it may have made it easier to deal with things being a "familiar" friend.

[unrelated] Now we are getting a little progress... Now I hope things just progress and get better so we don't have so much anger and being upset going on.

[Iron_Forge]

It's in my opinion that if Iron_Forge really cared about the community that passionately, he wouldn't be demanding ownership of the site to 'fix it'. Instead, you'd go ahead and do it anyway.

My Proposal:
I've also offered a proposal, whereby I host the website on one of my servers, which are professional servers on at least gigabit lines, I'd let Iron_Forge be admin, and to essentially run the site, whilst only having one advert at the top/bottom of the page, which would fund SG until he's repaid the money he's put into the site. From the point where it's paid off his costs, I would entirely remove ads altogether. Running the site ad-free, on a server with 99.9% up time. The only way this can happen, is if SourceGuy agrees to let me host the site, remove all the ads but the main one at the top or bottom, he gets all the revenue from the ads (which is entirely reasonable, seeing as the time and effort he put into this site) and I_F would also have to agree to run the site, without owning it. It would basically be a similar situation to before the upgrade, I'd essentially be acting as Gren, in owning the site and hosting it, but I wouldn't be running it... I_F would be. I don't know about you guys, but this seems like a win-win situation. SG hasn't gotta worry about anything, he just rakes in the revenue and pays off the money/effort he put into the site, I_F gets to run the place without buying the site, and you guys all get what you want.

I wouldn't say I'm demanding the site, I'm offering an alternative...When SG took over the site, he said I had no place left in the site if I wasn't willing to code for him...I fail to see how I can fix everything he's done wrong without ownership of the site...Most of it is just enabling or disabling an option he refuses to do...

I really like your proposal, as long as I get full access to the server (ssh) to do my coding / work on things, and no one else does without my permission...And as long as you didn't step up and try to dictate policy regarding the site unless it was required for your hosting (bandwidth/storage, etc...)

Unfortunately, it's a moot point what I think...SG has given me his number, I feel it's a rediculous number considering he paid nothing for the site besides time, and hardware can easily be re-allocated to other projects, regardless of what they were purchased for...And given that one broke without warranty, I'm guessing they weren't amazing to begin with...

This is your halomods...Welcome...

[Tural]

Well that sucks.

[WaeV]

Thank you, SourceGuy.

[RaVNzCRoFT]

What...the hell just happened here.

[shadowkhas]

Oh.

[Tural]

Nevermind. Rude post.

[Aumaan Anubis]

I see no reason for a need of a "Grenadiac-like person." There's no need to complicate things by adding in more variables.

Iron_Forge owning the site, alone, works just as well, if not better.

[WaeV]

Iron_Forge owning the site, alone, works just as well, if not better.

The Gren-like person would host it. I_F would need servers to be the sole owner.

[Aumaan Anubis]

You know what, I made that post in haste before I'd read this page.

I would've made a different post, perhaps one such as...

WHAT... THE HELL.