New Teaser Video. Halo 3 Campaign Extension?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:24 pm

The hints towards that are loud and blatant, yes. I'm fairly sure their goal with those images and messages was to make you think that, I'd be surprised if someone missed the references.

AbeFroman · Post by **AbeFroman** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:25 pm

hmmm...no OFFICIAL sources EVER said that Master chief was the last spartan, am i right? Bungie certainly never did, maybe you play as one of the other spartans, they can use the drop pods too, it's not like Spartans are banned from drop pods or something like that.

but i'm hoping more for an ODST, just throwing out some possibilities for you guys to ponder.

We hope you haven't dedicated too much time and stress to this 12-hour long countdown event.

this confused me, does that mean they are counting down 12 hours till it is released? or something else?

latinomodder · Post by **latinomodder** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:27 pm

AbeFroman wrote:hmmm...no OFFICIAL sources EVER said that Master chief was the last spartan, am i right? Bungie certainly never did, maybe you play as one of the other spartans, they can use the drop pods too, it's not like Spartans are banned from drop pods or something like that.

but i'm hoping more for an ODST, just throwing out some possibilities for you guys to ponder.

We hope you haven't dedicated too much time and stress to this 12-hour long countdown event.
this confused me, does that mean they are counting down 12 hours till it is released? or something else?

I believe he is indeed the last Spartan II

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:35 pm

AbeFroman wrote:
We hope you haven't dedicated too much time and stress to this 12-hour long countdown event.
this confused me, does that mean they are counting down 12 hours till it is released? or something else?

They started the countdown 12 hours before the video was released. The countdown lasted 12 hours.

AbeFroman wrote:hmmm...no OFFICIAL sources EVER said that Master chief was the last spartan, am i right? Bungie certainly never did, maybe you play as one of the other spartans, they can use the drop pods too, it's not like Spartans are banned from drop pods or something like that.

There's no evidence to support it being a Spartan, however. On the other hand, there is circumstantial evidence to support it being an ODST. If it is a Spartan, they are purposefully misleading the public with their comments. And no, to whoever is going to post it, Bungie doesn't go out of their way to mislead people in their marketing, so don't post your stupid post. I know one of you is going to do it.

Dissolution241 · Post by **Dissolution241** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:37 pm

"The last of his kind". He is the last. Unless they're working on more? Gahhh.

I hope it gets released relatively soon or they show some screenshots, reveal some info, etc. And I wonder if they will introduce any new weapons, vehicles or equipment.

guysullavin · Post by **guysullavin** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:38 pm

well i don't think i remember there ever NOT being a spartan III project

again, seriously doubt it, i think I'd prefer ODST

AbeFroman · Post by **AbeFroman** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:46 pm

so it was just a countdown for the release of a short video? lame...

and Sullivan's right, in the books i believe some dude began a Spartan III project, but they weren't as good as the Spartan IIs, they were made to be superior to the average marine by far, but not be as amazingly expensive to make as the Spartan IIs

but like i said, i still prefer ODST over any spartan. kinda sick of spartans makes the gameplay more mindless seeing as you're like an unstoppable supersoldier according to the storyline. (unless you play on legendary or heroic)

edit: the book was Ghosts of Onyx, Kurt was recruited to help train the first of the spartan IIIs (kurt is one of the spartan IIs) unfortunately

(SPOILERS!!!) on the planet Onyx where most of the book takes place they find something called a "Dyson Sphere" which is like the "bomb shelter" the forerunners used to survive halo, Kurt and 4 other spartan IIIs get trapped in there

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:54 pm

The authors of the books were given creative freedom concerning what they wrote. Do not take the information in books as being indicative of the games' storylines.

AbeFroman · Post by **AbeFroman** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:00 pm

why not? bungie could easily use the merge the storylines from the books into the game's storyline, they are both, after all, Halo

i've seen no plot points in the games to disprove what i've read in the books

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:07 pm

AbeFroman wrote:why not? bungie could easily use the merge the storylines from the books into the game's storyline, they are both, after all, Halo

i've seen no plot points in the games to disprove what i've read in the books

There are continuity errors.
Bungie has stated that not everything that occurs in the books necessarily happened in the game's universe.

There was no sign of Spartan activity when you returned to Earth in Halo 3, so uh... no.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:10 pm

AbeFroman wrote:why not? bungie could easily use the merge the storylines from the books into the game's storyline, they are both, after all, Halo

Well, in theory, yes, they could. But you see, they haven't. You are basing your assumption on something which Bungie has stated is not necessarily part of the game storylines. You missed the point of my post. Furthermore, refer to Veegie's post for why they couldn't, in actuality. You also did not seem to grasp key parts of the books, but that's not important, because the authors were given creative freedom. Bungie did not dictate what they wrote, and therefore it is not Bungie's story being told. You should not, for any reason, take the story written by a book author to be cannon in the Halo universe. Bungie didn't write it, it is not official story. The entire basis for your theories is unstable. The discussion is not productive, let's end it.

AbeFroman wrote:i've seen no plot points in the games to disprove what i've read in the books

That's nice. Also completely irrelevant to what I said.

tl;dr: Bungie did not write the books, it is not their story. Stop making assumptions based on the story written by people who are not Bungie, it is not necessarily cannon.

God I hate Bungie announcements. Rampant, illogical, absurd, unfounded speculation drives me crazy.

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:17 pm

i seem to remember a magazine in borders talking about a GRAW type halo shooter wich is entirely marines i believe it was game informer but im not entirely sure

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:18 pm

sneakyn8 wrote:i seem to remember a magazine in borders talking about a GRAW type halo shooter wich is entirely marines i believe it was game informer but im not entirely sure

Which would have absolutely nothing to do with this, because this is a Halo 3 expansion, not a new title, and it takes place in Halo 3's engine.

Themandyou · Post by **Themandyou** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:25 pm

Oh come on! Isn't a "GRAW Double Exp Weekend" realistic? You could just enter matchmaking, and when the game starts, it's just like you're playing GRAW crossed with Halo!

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:26 pm

Tural wrote:
sneakyn8 wrote:i seem to remember a magazine in borders talking about a GRAW type halo shooter wich is entirely marines i believe it was game informer but im not entirely sure
Which would have absolutely nothing to do with this, because this is a Halo 3 expansion, not a new title, and it takes place in Halo 3's engine.

they didnt say it was a new game just a project but now that i think about it the halo engine wouldnt support a 3ps would it

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:28 pm

It would be more work than its worth.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:28 pm

Game Informer is only good for information already posted. 'New' information on anything by them is most likely false... Like their "Forerunner" article for Halo 3.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:30 pm

Let's not forget OXM. I look forward to what they have to say. I loved playing with all the other Spartans in Halo 3 campaign, after all.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:52 pm

Veegie wrote:Bungie has stated that not everything that occurs in the books necessarily happened in the game's universe.

Tural wrote:The authors of the books were given creative freedom concerning what they wrote. Do not take the information in books as being indicative of the games' storylines.

Joe disagrees:

Joseph Staten wrote:HSP: Would the books make the cut?

JS: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe.

More.

Nick

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:02 pm

Even if that is the case, it is still not probable for it to be a Spartan, be it II or III, because then the events in the book are taking place during the time of this trailer, meaning it would be very difficult for the Spartans to be in two places at once, unless Bungie plans to be like, "Oh hey guys, there's this random Spartan that was mysteriously unaccounted for, don't worry about it." Any assumption as such would be as much rampant, unfounded speculation as it would be if they weren't canon.